After a little hiatus Phil and Ben back at it, joined this time by Paul Dragoonis and Vance Lucas. Paul does some fairly call stuff, manages the PPI framework and contributes to building the actual PHP.net website, the poor sod. Paul is also the winner in the “PHP developers from the UK who are hard to understand” contest two years running, only beating Phil to the title due to being slightly better at handling his booze. Vance works at NetSuite and has open-sourced a bunch of code things, most notably phpdotenv and frisby. We all have a little natter, share some of our horror stories from projects including PHP.net, and talk about Phil’s recent blog post about how hard it is to be a famous PHP rockstar guru.